so for you, karen, this year, the donald trump award goes to? >> oh, i have to say herman cain, in that interview, and he couldn't remember -- >> and that video we just saw. >> maybe a close second with governor perry, with trying to remember the three agencies, ouch, ouch, ouch, it just hurt, it hurt. >> and the difference was, perry actually was running for president, and cain was running for fame. joy? the donald trump award. >> well, i'm going to go with john sununu, he was the worst surrogate. he is everything wrong with the republican's brand, surly, racially insensitive, ugly, just awful. and he kept talking. >> the donald trump award goes to? >> my trump award goes to karl rove, on election night, on politics, election night he had no idea what was going on. and on policy, this was the year when we really saw the public turn against his enduring legacy of trying to write state legislation into the constitution against people who happen to be gay. and the republican party is turning against that. and that will be his legacy for a long tim